Legerra ZS (current, on hold)
Phaeton S1 project ongoing and soon to be on the road.
Phaeton S4 (re-homed)
Phaeton S1 (sold)
Sierra S2 (Now gone..to a good home)
Malaga/B+ (my first sold in 2000)
Engine Type and Transmission Type
Ford Pinto + Crossflow and Lancia twincam (in the bin...) and a Zetec
Do you converse with our German friends at all? if so, what is the best way?
I would like to find out a bit more about the way Tom moulded his dashboard, it looks like he has done it with some sort of foam, but not sure if he made a plug for GRP. Also I rather like the side skirts that Jorg has fitted to his machine. Unfortunately my German is non existant (should have paid more attention at school !!! )
I have never used Skype, i will have to set up an account and learn a bit about it first. I think I will leave a message on Tom's wall and talk to him that way for the time being.
you can't really call it a foot if it's not 12" as i have been telling folk since I was 13. I don't know how these tiny feeted people manage not to sink into soft ground.
don't tell me about falling over, I am in Belgium at a sales conference / jolly boys ( according to my wife) and as they have a surplus of beer I have to help clear it, but I have got to an age where it leak's away about every hour. So yessh you geusshhhed it I have to drink some more, yehshhh.
Hi Dave, thanks for the welcome. I've enjoyed your rebuild, story and the pictures are very useful. I'm not officially a Dutton owner yet - I have the garage ready but nothing in it yet! I'm looking for a project needing some work (I was hoping to avoid the complete rebuild you're doing at this stage) either a B type or S1 ideally. It will have to need something doing as I can't afford a sorted one.
Dave, I could see your figures were about right I just couldn't quite see how you'd arrived at them :-) Not sure about Newark yet as I'm on the reserve list for Lemans which is the same weekend. (missed Newark for the last 5 years for that reason) Agreed we should have tea and a bun sometime.
Some suprising bits on that site Dave,sutch as i can have as many rear foglights as i want (within a certain height) on the Sierra as its on a 72 plate!
That has me mystified. That is not the advert that I bought it from in Feb this year is it, surely I didn't miss that? It was sold twice last year, maybe it was one of those. It is tantalising to think that mine 'should' have a hard top. Now I am even more upset :-)
Daryl didn't put you up to this did he? I still owe him a cup of tea and he's not going to let me forget it!
Well I never ... I wonder what happened to it. Also says 'new battery' but it was completely shagged when I went to pick it up, in Feb. The guy who had it in between only did 250 miles in it and half of those were just collecting it!
Turns out that he sold the hardtop soon after he got the car. Presumably he didn't have anywhere to store it and he probably didn't want it on the car because it leaked even more than the soft top. So it is out there somewhere. Maybe it was bought by someone who painted it red to fit it onto your new car! That'd be funny. Poor Daryl will hardly be able to breathe for laughing if that was the case!
Thanks Dave I am beginning to understand a little better what I am getting into after a weekend away with the Northern Duttoneers and a really nice man from the AA
Sorry Dave me and IT are not compatible at times. The original reply to you post ended up only appearing on my page as a reply to myself !! Hope it works this time
The reply was
"Dutton Phaeton S2 - 1986
"Hi Dave 100% rebuild of car owned for 30 years +. Thanks for the advice on the bracing. Putting it back together, with some extra safety in mind, as Tim "god love him" Dutton's original design Warts and all. My wife helped me put…"
Second try to send the original reply..going to bed head hurts
"100% rebuild of car owned for 30 years +. Thanks for the advice on the bracing. Putting it back together, with some extra safety in mind, as Tim "god love him" Dutton's original design Warts and all. My wife helped me put together a Blog www.lennardnuttall.wordpress.com which hopefully will make you smile.
Regards Lenn"
Not personally. We once had contact per email concerning another Dutton. I'm not yet involved with the Dutton community in Germany, since I bought the car last month (and yet had no time to work on it - it's a shame). But from what I saw, the most Dutton owners in Germany live in the northern part.
Hi Dave. I'm using a 1.8 silver top with twin choke carb running through a cross flow inlet manifold and adapt or plate. Although the legerra isn't up and running yet I'm taking the engine out of my old Rickmansworth ranger so I know it goes well. My aim is to focus on getting the car rebuilt this year and on the road, once that's done I might look at finding a 2.0 zetec and going bike carbs or possibly MX5, will see what's about nearer the time.
You are not alone I purchased my Leggy off Piston Heads as a rolling chassie and body, rear axle was tacked in with weld no springs no engine, no gearbox, no loom, no seats or instruments. Still an ongoing project 4 years later but i ist now drivable on the drive way. Getting older does appear to have some thing to do with doing these stupid stunts.
I am very pleased with it Dave, it has more than enough grunt to use on road in order to put a smile on my face. It is also very driveable right across the rev range using all five gears.
Hi Dave!
Thanks for your message! You apparently owned many Duttons! I was wondering what you think about the Legerra?
Is this as fun as a Phaeton? Or does it feel heavier and seems more like a "normal" car? It's probably more comfortable?
I have experienced myself the comfort difference between the Phaeton S2 and S3. I'm myself rather tall and my S3 had a much more spacious cockpit. The S2 has such a narrow cockpit and is also much lower! My head is just touching the roll bar..
hi dave .my dutton has been stood 20 years so iv had a lot of work to do on it but i drove it for the first time at the weekend i hope to get a mot on it soon then have a good drive in it on the road and not just the tenfoot.
Adrian Southgate
Sep 17, 2010
Paul Sheridan
Hello Dave
Do you converse with our German friends at all? if so, what is the best way?
I would like to find out a bit more about the way Tom moulded his dashboard, it looks like he has done it with some sort of foam, but not sure if he made a plug for GRP. Also I rather like the side skirts that Jorg has fitted to his machine. Unfortunately my German is non existant (should have paid more attention at school !!! )
What do you think.
Cheers
Paul.
Dec 19, 2010
Paul Sheridan
I have never used Skype, i will have to set up an account and learn a bit about it first. I think I will leave a message on Tom's wall and talk to him that way for the time being.
Dec 20, 2010
Tom Ger_Phaeton S2
Hi Dave,
thx for your compliment....... to much super7 driver are to arogant.... I am shure that this the movement for me to build a better car. ;-)
:-)))) If you want to buy a car from me ....... in any case not the "Malaga" from Alexa lol
That car is her's
best wishes
Tom
Dec 23, 2010
Tom Ger_Phaeton S2
Hello Dave,
I saw the picture of the duttonforums UK and take a comment there. Nice study
Tom
Dec 27, 2010
Dave Taylor
Jan 25, 2011
Dave Taylor
Jan 25, 2011
Dave Taylor
Feb 7, 2011
Dave Taylor
Feb 8, 2011
Dave Taylor
Feb 10, 2011
Dave Taylor
Feb 11, 2011
Tom Ger_Phaeton S2
Hi Dave,
I am verry lucky to have two more friends in england :-)))
If you see I am verry buisy in this time....
Today I have buy a Scorpio 2.9 24V Cossworth 140000 Km :-)))
New Parts for a new Project ;-)
Kind regards for Sandra
Tom
May 2, 2011
Dave Taylor
Aug 4, 2011
John Allen
Mar 14, 2012
Mark Bagnall
Hi Dave, thanks for the welcome. I've enjoyed your rebuild, story and the pictures are very useful. I'm not officially a Dutton owner yet - I have the garage ready but nothing in it yet! I'm looking for a project needing some work (I was hoping to avoid the complete rebuild you're doing at this stage) either a B type or S1 ideally. It will have to need something doing as I can't afford a sorted one.
Apr 10, 2012
Mark Bagnall
Thanks Dave, I'll try and avoid the really stupid questions!
May 2, 2012
Big Vern
Dave, I could see your figures were about right I just couldn't quite see how you'd arrived at them :-) Not sure about Newark yet as I'm on the reserve list for Lemans which is the same weekend. (missed Newark for the last 5 years for that reason) Agreed we should have tea and a bun sometime.
May 20, 2012
Dave Thomas
Some suprising bits on that site Dave,sutch as i can have as many rear foglights as i want (within a certain height) on the Sierra as its on a 72 plate!
May 22, 2012
Adrian Southgate
Any news on Toms car Dave?
Jun 21, 2012
Pete Clayton
Any good to you Dave? http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=175954
Nov 4, 2012
James Doulton
Do you have any pictures of your Sierra?
Jan 25, 2013
luc de swart
Dave,
Also for you, you're allways welcome for a visit.
luc
Jan 27, 2013
Dave Thomas
South Yorkshire potholes strike again im afraid Dave, going out soon to find out just how cold it is, if its not too bad ill fit the new spring.
Mar 24, 2013
James Doulton
That has me mystified. That is not the advert that I bought it from in Feb this year is it, surely I didn't miss that? It was sold twice last year, maybe it was one of those. It is tantalising to think that mine 'should' have a hard top. Now I am even more upset :-)
Daryl didn't put you up to this did he? I still owe him a cup of tea and he's not going to let me forget it!
Jul 13, 2013
James Doulton
Well I never ... I wonder what happened to it. Also says 'new battery' but it was completely shagged when I went to pick it up, in Feb. The guy who had it in between only did 250 miles in it and half of those were just collecting it!
Jul 13, 2013
James Doulton
Turns out that he sold the hardtop soon after he got the car. Presumably he didn't have anywhere to store it and he probably didn't want it on the car because it leaked even more than the soft top. So it is out there somewhere. Maybe it was bought by someone who painted it red to fit it onto your new car! That'd be funny. Poor Daryl will hardly be able to breathe for laughing if that was the case!
Jul 13, 2013
Simon J Brown
Oct 16, 2013
Lennard J Nuttall
Apr 20, 2014
Lennard J Nuttall
The reply was
"Dutton Phaeton S2 - 1986
"Hi Dave 100% rebuild of car owned for 30 years +. Thanks for the advice on the bracing. Putting it back together, with some extra safety in mind, as Tim "god love him" Dutton's original design Warts and all. My wife helped me put…"
May 3, 2014
Lennard J Nuttall
"100% rebuild of car owned for 30 years +. Thanks for the advice on the bracing. Putting it back together, with some extra safety in mind, as Tim "god love him" Dutton's original design Warts and all. My wife helped me put together a Blog www.lennardnuttall.wordpress.com which hopefully will make you smile.
Regards Lenn"
May 3, 2014
Dave Thomas
PMs sent Dave.
Jul 8, 2014
Pete Clayton
This is the closest to a side photo I have
These are the best of the suspension at the moment
Sep 2, 2014
Pete Clayton
I think it must be a very late one chassis number is six thousand and something
Sep 2, 2014
Pete Clayton
I got a couple of better pics of the suspension this evening
Sep 9, 2014
Jim (across the pond) Adamek
Dave, Mine is registered as a 1974.
Oct 5, 2014
John Buckley
Looking for a s1 /s2 phaeton
Dec 25, 2015
John Buckley
Dec 25, 2015
Big Vern
John, does it have to be an S1/2 Phaeton ?
Dec 27, 2015
John Buckley
Thanks
Dec 27, 2015
John Buckley
There was always 1 or 2 coming up for sale
May the search continue lol
Dec 29, 2015
Patrick Buchfink
Not personally. We once had contact per email concerning another Dutton. I'm not yet involved with the Dutton community in Germany, since I bought the car last month (and yet had no time to work on it - it's a shame). But from what I saw, the most Dutton owners in Germany live in the northern part.
Jan 21, 2016
Scott Grimson
Mar 10, 2016
Jim (across the pond) Adamek
Very good article Dave, Thank You. lol, I'll be thinking about the attempt to do it.
Mar 19, 2016
Paul Sargisson
You are not alone I purchased my Leggy off Piston Heads as a rolling chassie and body, rear axle was tacked in with weld no springs no engine, no gearbox, no loom, no seats or instruments. Still an ongoing project 4 years later but i ist now drivable on the drive way. Getting older does appear to have some thing to do with doing these stupid stunts.
Jul 15, 2016
Paul Sheridan
I am very pleased with it Dave, it has more than enough grunt to use on road in order to put a smile on my face. It is also very driveable right across the rev range using all five gears.
Oct 5, 2016
Paul Sheridan
Oct 5, 2016
Paul Sheridan
This is a vid of it on the dyno ...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3VZiuiX6qk
Oct 5, 2016
Kent Brorsson
Hi, thanks :-). I live very close to denmark, I'd love to see you car when you are here :-)
Oct 8, 2016
Andy Dutton
Thanks for your message! You apparently owned many Duttons! I was wondering what you think about the Legerra?
Is this as fun as a Phaeton? Or does it feel heavier and seems more like a "normal" car? It's probably more comfortable?
I have experienced myself the comfort difference between the Phaeton S2 and S3. I'm myself rather tall and my S3 had a much more spacious cockpit. The S2 has such a narrow cockpit and is also much lower! My head is just touching the roll bar..
Nov 16, 2016
mark
hi dave .my dutton has been stood 20 years so iv had a lot of work to do on it but i drove it for the first time at the weekend i hope to get a mot on it soon then have a good drive in it on the road and not just the tenfoot.
Feb 21, 2017