Brexit no need to bother

[Steve Kerswell]

Well it seems after last night display both on and off the field, we don't need to consider the referendum. Most of Europe will now want us out ! Send them all home, and let's deal with it. I thought the meaning of sport was to help one another's culture etc . Tear gas should be dyed and anyone found dyed should be punished. Proud to be British, no, not at this moment. FFS.

[Brian (up north) Morris]

no their NOT:-)))

[rob saul]

Years ago 2009 ish Eric pickles the labour mp made the statement the "if it wasn't for the polish workers the strawberry's would rot in the fields"
God knows how we managed the last 150 years ?
Just before free migration happened I was working for VW motorsport in the uk and we use to have 2 of the top directors from the VW group come over every week an we often ended up talking about it and what would happen
While we were going to " only" have 6000 polish workers we had free access Germany put restrictions in place
One of the largest farming crops in Germany is white asparagus,the crop nearly failed as the polish workers that had picked it for the last few hundred years (my Polish friend Robert compared it to hop picking in Kent for the polish people) weren't allowed in to pick it anymore
Couple of months later and I was working on the south coast in Bognor Regis and there must of been 6000 polish there alone swamping the market garden trade
5% immigration would be fine if it was across all sectors but it isn't
Vast majority are in the low pay/ skills sector
There has always been a section of the population who aren't academically inclined but still hard working an they could always find work
Not any more !!!
In Norfolk for example the go to places like Bernard Mathews,Watton produce,bowes,Fakenham laundry are swamped with polish/lithuanian/Russian workers
People spout the "cant get the British people to do the jobs"
BULL SHIT there were doing the jobs till about 8 years ago !
My friend got a job at one of the places mentioned above
On his 32 man shift there were 2 English people !
He applied to one of the other places and was told
" sorry we only take foreign contract labour"
If you do get a job you will probably be earning less Than you did in 2008
Funny thing is not all sectors are affected,if it involves hr departments an people in offices they ship them in but certain like the tarmac gangs for example you wont find a polish guy there
The people who the 5% affects the most are the ones that can least afford it and the least able to fight back
If all the polish started taking mp,s jobs things would soon be changed !
Finally despite what you call them many aren't immigrants they are economic migrants and have no intention of staying here and are sending money back home as soon as they arrive

[James Doulton]

I agree with you Rob, up to a point. I don't think that any company should be allowed to discriminate either for or against UK nationals - I would have thought that was illegal. I also agree that many of them are only short-term residents but that doesn't help the OUT argument, where these fit young workers are apparently swamping the NHS.

On the subject of worker's right, and low paid workers in particular, I don't think that zero hours contracts are fair on employees. They are only necessary in one business because they are being used in another. The UK government is unlikely to do anything about that one because it is good for business. I disagree. How do those workers plan their finances and make any long-term (or even short-term) commitments.

I think that the only real losers in the EU are the small businesses that seem to have a mountain of new regulations to understand each year. I guess that trade associations can help guide their members but it is still an obstacle for new businesses.

Plus from our point of view, I don't think that the other EU countries like kit cars and probably hate Duttons. I am sure that they would be banned if the EU had its way. Then I'd have to drive a BMW Z4M, damn that'd be a chore.

[James Doulton]

I think that this discussion highlights how difficult it is for people to make up their minds because we have had intelligent people on both sides making some good points. Obviously, as Dutton owners, our judgement is questionable so we are unlikely to get a final answer.

I personally want to be part of a European super state, rather than its impoverished neighbour, but I worry about the Queen and poor Prince Charles, who is still waiting to be King. I think that being part of a European super state that is No1 in the world is our rightful place, back to leading the world like we were before the First World War!