S1 Rebuild(s)

[Dave Adams]

some pics of the rebuild process,

the top trailing arm bracket is broke......

the diff is sloping back a little (looking up) so that will need sorting.......

As you can see there isn't a lot of bracing in an S1 chassis, that will be sorted.

[Dave Adams]

the VOSA inspector noted that there was no rear plate .....he said it didnt matter. the chassis had a unique number totally unknown to DVLA they were happy it was a genuine number and the car was of the correct age.

as am i...

[rob saul]

Your rebuild thread is for a phaeton s1,as I previously stated both the s1,s I have owned I still own I'm not likely to think its my Malaga b+ am I ?
Your right I have a lot of cars an probaly sold over 200 so numbers become a bit vague to say the least
Ncl19v was my first Dutton I had when I was 16 an I know that number other that that haven't got a clue !
Your adamant your car is a phaeton yes ? TTW was first registered on 01/04/77 ,the phaeton wasn't avalible then so how does that work ???

[Dave Adams]

it doesn't nor did it  have a Malaga B plus chassis number.

I dont know rob.....but i have a long documented proof of my rebuilding the car as bought its been a long rebuild and at every stage with the DVLA approval. its been inspected and found to be genuine. i have even added extra hurdles to ensure its bona-fides.

It would seem that your car is as likely to be the incorrectly registered one as any (if mine is possibly incorrect, a point i am not convinced of), i still have the reg plate mine came with. its an old number plate....why would it have a "new" bonnet with old plates on it if someone didn't belive it to be the right number plate? where would they get it from? and if its a Malaga it would be a malaga bonnet surely? oh its been replaced for a new one......like the one on my current car.....hmmm  if anything odd has gone on its not been by me but a previous owner. and how would someone guess my registration? and who would sell a bonnet with the number plates of a car they were keeping? a new bonnet at that?

were this car a "Q" plate i am sure it would not even be an issue i am sure.

there is a lot that is not adding up here. and had paper work been correctly dealt with as required by the law there would not now be this confusion over the car.....your Malaga sounds as dodgy as any i know of and as equally legit.

Duttons are often incorrectly recorded and i have been busy checking all of my details to ensure mine is right. i am convinced it is.

far from my car needing inspection i would ask yours is! Mine is legit...i have proof hard won over the years. all this effort was for a car i started to rebuild only after it was inspected and i was told to rebuild it and present it for MOT when ready.

my car has been found to be of a genuine age and legal.

[rob saul]

Its not too hard to remember when you buy a Dutton with a brand new rear end,how many have you ever seen come up for sale ? Rear end still hasn't got lights,body fixings,number plate its still virgin as the day I bought the car apart from the filling in owner no1 did

Your "story" from the London guy ? Was that related to him from the " geezer" in Essex ???
Maybe he will be able to tell you the story of how you get a phaeton registered at the start of 77 ???
best thing as far as I'm concerned is that owner 2 lives down the rd from me and can confirm what I have posted
Random guy from gumtree doesn't cut it for me

[Adrian Southgate]

Gentlemen, I wasn't going to comment, instead I would like to suggest that 'discussing' this on the public forum will not benefit anyone and may in fact prove to be detrimental to others in a similar position in the future. 

I would also like to mention that if members were more forthcoming about vehicle details this would be less likely to become such a problem.

[rob saul]

Don't worry both our cars and paperwork is being inspected once the case files from the defunct local dvla office are brought out of storage
How would you suggest mine is incorrectly registered since my papertrail goes back 1977 and I have had the logbook and car since 99 ?
The lady I spoke to today admitted they made a mistake and its noted in the file that no letter was sent out to me as it should of been when you applied for the v5
The bonnet I sold wasn't new it had been on the car for 4 years and had seen some use,I got a brand new front end and sold the bonnet "as is" lights indicators everything inc the number plate
Note-if your doing a "ringer" or something dodgy you tend to hang on to no plates an vin plates an stuff not sell it off !

[Dave Adams]

So how do you explain how my car came to have all the correct details available?

My car has been inspected and found to be an age appropriate vehicle of the correct type for its age.

[rob saul]

Your details weren't correct
The vin number on the v5 has always been correct (or at least always been the same since it was first issued in 77 ) and is b***, your logbook is correct for a phaeton but the car never was a phaeton

[Dave Adams]

The point is my car has been officially inspected and approved. That was the point of my initial post. It's taken almost 4 years. 

DVLA this morning have confirmed that my car is legit and to tax it for road use as soon as I am able. So I am past caring.  The car has a legal VOSA inspection it apparently won't need another.  The error if any resides with DVLA 

I have not now or ever tried to subvert the legal process nor do I condone the "ringing" of any car. If the DVLA are correct  the chassis number started BT. you say B....in which case everyone is wrong. Either DVLA have given you a document which does not match the records or dupicated two cars on differing chassis numbers. 

If my Phaeton is "wrong" for a B or BT chassis number so is your Malaga

which should have been M*** or M***B

I find it a little hypocritical to claim my car is more "wrong" than yours when each is equally likely a legit car. Mine however was inspected in accordance with the rules and I have a legal log book for it.

I don't want to fall out over this but I have done everything asked of me to verify my cars bona-fide's. ....

[rob saul]

I'm not going to fall out either and dvla will sort it out
Not accused you of ringing though you seem to be implying that of me
Just look at it from my point of view . I have had the car and log book for over 17years,the owner before me had it 6 months an no problems
You have had a 4 year fight to prove other wise
I have had my son email me a photo of the v5 110% my car hasn't got a bt vin number !
There is a reason why/how my chassis number is how it is,that has been told to the dvla

[Dave Adams]

Wasn't accusing you either.....but it felt like you were.....if DVLA have coked up they will sort it....

[Adrian Southgate]

Wouldn't bank on either of you being happy with that result to be honest.

I've now had two genuine Dutton's refused the V5C due to clerical errors in Swansea 25 years or more ago... Both were Q plates and not eligible for historic status either...