Dutton Kit Cars and their owners

Going to Bolton tomorrow to collect some allycat wheels for Peggy. If anyone is interested in the Wolfrace Street Octanes shown in my picture, let me know. They're 100/108 PCD, 15", 6/5" (185mm tyres) and ET35 offset with plenty of tread. Otherwise they'll go on ebay.

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Comment by John Allen on October 10, 2012 at 9:01

thanks ade for advise.

Comment by Adrian Southgate on October 10, 2012 at 1:11

I paid £101.99 on ebay for my (5) Dotz wheels and like yours they are not perfect but look ok from a normal viewing distance.. They didn't have rubber on though.

Best way I find is to look for similar items as completed listings and see what they sold for.

Is the centre bore too large on your new ones, I have a couple of sets of rings to fit fords.(64.5mm)

I also have some tyres, what size are your rims?

@ John. Ed's wheels will fit your car but may need more than 20mm spacers. The Phaeton was designed for 3-4 inch deep rims. you need to drop a plumb line from the body work and measure the distance to the hub face.

Comment by Ed Townend on October 10, 2012 at 0:47
To be perfectly honest I'm not sure what they're worth, I was told that they were new when I got the car in June last year and they looked it but the lacquer is a little chipped in some areas now. The tyres are budget but with maybe 6mm+ of tread, I would have to measure them. I'll be selling them with the 20mm hub centric spacers but unfortunately can't sell them yet as my new wheels don't fit. Turns out the centre bore is different so I need new spacers, and definitely new tyres - if an eBay seller says the tyres are a little old they actually mean totally cracked and worn to the canvas.
Comment by John Allen on October 9, 2012 at 12:38
We sounds interesting. Not sure if would fit mine. Sure the brainiac on here will tell me?!?!? If so how much ???
Comment by Dave Adams on October 7, 2012 at 8:28

i think mine must be escort standard offset as the tyres almost touch the chassis. so i use some 3/4" spacers.....

Comment by Big Vern on October 6, 2012 at 22:51

Most Escort except the original steel wheels were ET19 and require 3/4" spacers. You can just about get away with ET 15 without spacers but the tyre sidewall is jolly close to the chassis rail at the rear. With ET 10 and 185 section tyres I could just get my little finger in between the tyre and the chassis rail. If you don't have lateral axle location the tyre WILL tub on the chassis rail when cornering.

Comment by Dave Taylor on October 6, 2012 at 22:21
Ketle on here too, may even have a biscuit
Comment by Adrian Southgate on October 6, 2012 at 21:31

:-) Dutton's were designed for 0 offset wheels

ET15's work (ford RWD pre Sierra) with long studs and spacers.

Anything bigger and its hubcentric bolt on spacers (which you have) but you can get them in some ridiculous sizes to fit race cars. Normally sold as a pair and measured as a total axle width extention so a set of 80mm spacers will only give you 40mm per side.

The Dotz wheels I have on mine are ET15 but I have used 24mm hubcentric spacers to take them out to match the arches. The Sierra is fitted with 0 offset 8x15's which don't need spacers or longer studs but will need wheelarch mods on the front :-) I think the current terminology is 'PHAT' wheels.

I'll PM you the address.

Comment by Ed Townend on October 6, 2012 at 20:07

Huge! There's two spacers on each corner, one that bolts onto the existing studs and has its own longer studs and a second shim that fits onto that. Each is at a guess 20mm so a total of 40-50mm extension. I figured ET15 offset on the new wheels would allow me to get rid of one of those spacers, so naturally when some ET37 wheels popped up on ebay I bought those. Yes, I know that makes the situation even worse. Yes, I'm a sucker for cheap stuff.

Saying that made me dash out to check that the hub adapter doesn't change the PCD. Luckily it's still 108.

This picture gives an idea of the ridiculous amount of spacing. In summary, I'm an idiot who always buys the wrong thing in a fit of excitement. And I always love a cuppa!

Comment by Adrian Southgate on October 6, 2012 at 19:47

If you come over to Bolton and don't stop for a cuppa ... :-)

ET 35's are going to mean 25mm or bigger spacers all round unless your'e running a capri axle. What size spacers do you have on Peggy?

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