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Change to type 9 gearbox

Started this discussion. Last reply by Adrian Southgate May 21. 11 Replies

Hi all, I posted on but no one replied, hopefully better luck here. I'm going ahead with conversion to type 9 on my trials car to give a higher top to bottom gear ratio. Could anyone advise links on…Continue

Rear axle

Started this discussion. Last reply by David Middleditch Jan 2. 15 Replies

Morning all,Which rear axle is likely to be on my S2 (I know it's escort, but are there any variants or things I can look at to identify exactly which one it is.Then, once I know the axle, are there…Continue

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Adrian Southgate replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"Sierra clutch data as follows, all using national part numbers for reference. CK9002 Ford Sierra 1.6 MK 1 (1982-1987) - Hatchback - Part fitment dates 10/82-09/84, 1593cc, 4cyl, OHC cam, 8v Ford Sierra 1.6 MK 1 (1982-1987) - Estate - Part…"
May 21
David Middleditch replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"I'm researching and looks like Sierra 1.6 has 190 clutch with 23 teeth so that's what i need"
May 20
Adrian Southgate replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"190mm clutch is the 1100, 1300, 1600 non mexico clutch. 20 spline won't fit the type 9. 215mm is for mex and larger 23 spline does fit the type 9."
May 20
David Middleditch replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"thanks all. It's 1600 cross flow. Yes, 5th gear will be extremely tall, but that's what I want. So I thin I can run my original flywheel and maybe even bell housing (need to offer it up asap). Adrian, you say you've got the 190mm…"
May 20
Big Vern replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"Xflo flywheels are different to Pinto flywheels. Xflo clutch 190mm with 7/8"x20 spline center, Pinto 1.8&2.0 +later 1.6 are all 215mm with 1"x23 spline center 1.6l Capri (some) used the Cortina MK3 gearbox (the 4 speed version of the…"
May 15
Big Vern replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"Paul, you obviously have a lot of money to spend :p  You can do this cheaply with production line parts if you know which ones."
May 15
Big Vern replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"Hi David, I wouldn't normally advise using the type9 on an Xflo as they don't really have the torque to pull 5th, but as your car looks to be set up for sporting trials then I guess what your really looking for is the lower first gear. I…"
May 15
Adrian Southgate replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"As you are sticking with the crossflow then all the parts are Ford. I keep the clutch, thrust bearing, starter, pilot bearing in stock. No source for flywheels at this time but unless you need a lightened one the standard one will do.The interface…"
May 14
Paul replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"Hi, Bits as follows:- Alloy bell housing from Tiger Cars Starter motor :- 1 item sold by schmitz_re FORD SIERRA CORTINA 2.0 OHC PINTO 1976-1986  Flywheel:- 1 item sold by mkf.engineering FORD ZETEC RWD FLYWHEEL FOR RWD…"
May 14
Adrian Southgate replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"If you are using the Sierra / Capri 5 speed from a pinto powered car then you can use the clutch and cover / bearing from the gearbox donor. You may also have to use the flywheel. The only difference is the larger input shaft however that is shared…"
May 9
David Middleditch replied to David Middleditch's discussion Change to type 9 gearbox
"Continued... existing bell housing won't fit (I get the type 9 tomorrow). It's for a 1600 xflow and currently has 2000e bullet box. Also, anyone got a drawing of the gearbox mounting plate adaptor they made up when doing the same job to…"
May 8
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Change to type 9 gearbox

Hi all, I posted on but no one replied, hopefully better luck here. I'm going ahead with conversion to type 9 on my trials car to give a higher top to bottom gear ratio. Could anyone advise links on eBay to which bell housing, clutch, release bearing, starter motor etc. That I need (assuming the
May 8
David Middleditch replied to David Middleditch's discussion Rear axle
"Ok  I think it is Corrine mk2 then as it has got sliding brake cylinders. Are half shaft common with escort or a different length.?"
Jan 2
Big Vern replied to David Middleditch's discussion Rear axle
"For a Series 2 Phaeton it would most likely have been built with the Dutton suggested running gear of MK2 Cortina for the Engine, Gearbox, rear axle with leaf springs & Dampers, pedal box with M/Cylinders and Triumph Herald front suspension…"
Dec 29, 2018
James Doulton replied to David Middleditch's discussion Rear axle
"I don't recognise the position of the shock absorbers. On the Escort, weren't they mounted at an angle from the bottom of the spring saddle? Straight up (where they should be) doesn't look very Ford-like."
Dec 29, 2018
Dave Adams replied to David Middleditch's discussion Rear axle
"your axle looks like its from the earlier series of cars, as the slave cylinder is of the sliding single piston type by the look of you photos... that was also common to the corsairs and i believe the smaller engined Capris.... the later Mk2 escort…"
Dec 29, 2018

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Phaeton trials car
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1600 crossflow
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At 12:37 on December 28, 2018, David Middleditch said…

So, £60 quid in foam and leatherette and a superb job by the mother in law sewing them up, and here are the new seats. I've used sticky backed velcro on the back to make them removable as they will get wet and muddy trialling. All good to go for the Exeter trial next week.

At 19:47 on November 30, 2018, Adrian Southgate said…

Worthwhile fitting a drain pipe at the lowest point (not found a dutton that doesn't leak somewhere yet) 

Also worth sealing up any sort of wood used for the seat base, maybe fitting a couple of 1cm bits of closed cell foam under it too, just to lift it out of any water that may creep in.

Seat belts should mount to captive nuts under the chassis (normally just nuts welded to flat plates, welded to the rails.) but not sure they were fitted to S2's.

At 18:46 on November 30, 2018, David Middleditch said…

Ok, no problem. I didn't get time to look, but will need to remount the seat belt lower fixings. Will there be a weld but on the body or need some spreader plates?

At 18:19 on November 30, 2018, David Middleditch said…

Drops down

At 17:33 on November 30, 2018, David Middleditch said…

Here's the pic with seats removed. I sat in and just cushions would seem appropriate. Confirmation from the experts please?

At 18:19 on November 26, 2018, David Middleditch said…

Yes, triumph front end, Cortina rear end. I'd just been researching and concluded it must be an S2.

At 9:58 on November 26, 2018, David Middleditch said…

I think I need to pull the seats out on Wednesday and have a proper look at my options. I've been looking on youtube and ebay and foam, leatherette and a ply wood base seems a simple way to make a seat at minimal cost.

At 9:08 on November 26, 2018, James Doulton said…

Mine has 'seats' moulded into the GRP tub and the only padding (other than my extensive food reserves) was a slightly padded seat cover that was stuck there.

At 0:49 on November 26, 2018, Adrian Southgate said…

I've got a set of back seats from a peugeot cabriolet to be cut and shut into my S2. Just going to savage the foam out with a sharp knife until they fit in the gap.

I always thought the S1 S2 and B types were just 'cushions'.

At 21:42 on November 25, 2018, David Middleditch said…

I just searched the site and found some pics and dimensions. I'll have to make some (or get someone who's a lot better than me to see some...)

 
 
 

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